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Expect to find curse words, nudity, (occasionally explicit) talk of sex, and angry ranting, but NEVER slurs or sexually violent language. I use TW when I am aware of the need and on request.

belenen: (curvygirl -- me)
letter from Danielle & postcard from Vee / curvygirls conflict
I had the bestest day! I got my Supreme Beings of Leisure CD in the mail, AND a beautiful postcard from [livejournal.com profile] bluebl00d AND a long letter from [livejournal.com profile] boobiequeen!!! Oh that so made my day. ;-) I have the best friends! I can't wait to get enough postcards to actually start my collage. And usually I'm an anticipation person, but I really loved being surprised by Danielle's mail. Thank you Danielle and Vee!

I haven't been very active in my journal the past couple of days because we've had some Drama going on in my community, [livejournal.com profile] curvygirls. One member posted a very open, honest expression of how she felt -- that all of the photos of the small curvy girls in the community made her feel uncomfortable. So everyone responded to that, both affirmatively and in disagreement.

Then I posted this, describing my intent for the community.
My intent was that this community be for sizes 7-12 (though I never wrote that down) -- but that intent changed. As people joined and posted their photos and stories, I began to realize that healthy curviness also comes in larger and smaller sizes. My perception of healthy curvy beauty shifted. Yes, I'll admit, seeing images of girls who were thinner than me at first made me very uncomfortable, and I wanted to gently shoo them out -- but I didn't, and instead tried to change my perception. I forced myself to see their healthy (though sometimes very subtle) curves, and as I did, I found myself growing more confident in my own curves. I now believe that it is impossible to truly accept yourself as beautiful until you can see beauty in those who are different from you. Then, and only then, can you love the fact that we are all different and you are unique. And it wasn't just the thinner ones that changed my views -- I began to be able to see those who were heavier than me as beautiful too, which was an amazing breakthrough. Since I had always condemned my own supposedly 'unneccessary' curves, I condemned others too -- and as I accepted others I was more able to accept myself.

This community is for all healthy curvy girls, and for those who wish to become healthy. This means that if you are unhealthily underweight or obese to the point where it seriously inhibits health and mobility, as long as you are (however slowly) heading in the direction of healthy curviness, you are wonderfully welcome here. We happily include those who are naturally smaller or larger.
I hope it was enough to convince those who were uncomfortable with the smaller girls to stay.

and then another member decided to post something that I never got to read, because she edited it to say, "nevermind, this isn't changing anything, just causing pointless debate." Judging by the comments from people who had read it, she was commenting ostensibly on 'health' but displayed some serious judgmentalism -- health is not measured by weight, as she ought to know from having read the medical/health articles posted in the community. I had already been irritated with her attitude (she never commented except to say something negative, and seemed very elitist -- go figure) so I was tempted to ban her -- fortunately, she made the decision for me and left. Good riddance, I say. We don't need that kind of behavior, and until she grows up some, she's only bringing negativity.

I really love this community. I've never seen any group of people who are so willing to compromise, to learn and understand and accept others as they are. They respond to negativity by pouring out postitivity; such an amazing beautiful thing. And they're all so gorgeous! Seriously, I wish I could post some photos here to show you. They're stunning.
sounds: Supreme Beings Of Leisure: "Nothin' Like Tomorrow"
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One of the posters was a girl who described herself as a basic ruler-shaped body type with huge boobs. Would some folks describe her as curvy? Probably. To me (and apparently to her), she's a skinny girl with boobs.

I understand that the girl has the right to classify herself however she sees fit. But by saying "To me, she's a skinny girl with big boobs" and that maybe "some people" would describe her as curvy, this girl os saying that she thinks the girl is not curvy. Am I missing something?

You've seen me. You know my body structure. I might not be tall and stick-skinny, but I'm a little closer to "a skinny girl with big boobs" than some girls in [livejournal.com profile] curvygirls let me feel comfortable with.
Oh, damn. I misread that. :-(

Well... I'll tell her that she is right on the line of 'telling someone that they aren't curvy enough' -- it's a little questionable because the girl being 'judged' seems to agree with the 'judgement,' but all the same I definitely see your point. Thank you for explaining that to me.

The only thing I can think to say is that none of us are perfect, and the majority of the members DO have open minds about curves, or at least are trying to expand their definitions. I'm doing my best to keep judgement out, but I miss things sometimes. Feedback like yours helps me keep a better grip on things.
Babe, it's alright, like I said, I'm not blaming you. You're about as open-minded as they get, and it's not your fault if everyone else isn't. Plus, being that I am one of those who gets lumped into the "skinny" category, I'm more likely to pick up on these things, just because they're more likely to insult me. *shrugs* I suppose I might be more likely to overlook a subtle "fat" insult? I dunno.

Incidentally, I'm infinately curious as to who earned this description: I had already been irritated with her attitude (she never commented except to say something negative, and seemed very elitist -- go figure) so I was tempted to ban her -- fortunately, she made the decision for me and left. Namely because someone I had issues with no longer seems to be on the members list. I understand you not wanting to name names and what not, but *wink nudge*magicalgerbil@gmail.com*wink nudge* I sure would like to know. ;-)
You're about as open-minded as they get
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww thank you love!!!

and *wink nudge* I totally emailed you her username. ;-)
Ooh, and I totally meant to tell you, if you still don't know what she actually posted, she put it in her journal, so it's there if you want to read it....

And yeah. I totally get where you're coming from. There are a few people 'round in there who kinda like to force opinions on people, and I just didn't....uh...."get along" with them very well. :-/
would you email me their usernames so I can watch them especially? I think you have to make allowances for people being at different stages of maturity, but at the same time, if there is blatant judgementalism that will not be tolerated.

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