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Expect to find curse words, nudity, (occasionally explicit) talk of sex, and angry ranting, but NEVER slurs or sexually violent language. I use TW when I am aware of the need and on request.

belenen: (pain)
such a small word... so much torment.
I was triggered twice by just reading my friends page today... once when I followed a link to a jokes community and some asshole posted a 'joke' implying rape of a child, and the other by the word 'rape' used metaphorically.

I feel rather helpless about it now, and I'm chickening out by posting instead of commenting, but... I recently got a somewhat defensive reaction when I tried to talk about it, so... I'm doing it this way.

Rape is not 'joke' material. It's not even 'writing effect' material. Rape is the worst thing one human can do to another. It's not okay, in my opinion, to refer to 'rape' in any manner other than with great awareness of the horror and the tragedy that it encompasses. I think to do so is to trivialize the suffering of victims and to encourage the acceptance of the act, no matter how subtly.

To quote something I said recently...

"This is awkward to word because I don't want to sound like I'm trying to control what you write, not at all, and I don't want to offend. I have a problem with the word 'rape' being used lightly. I've been raped, and it is devastating -- it crumbles your whole world. For me, even the word hits me like a slap in the face (and I know it does for many other survivors too). Sooooo, I'm going out on a limb here and explaining this because I like you and I want to explain how I feel... and how possibly other girls feel and don't express. 1 in every 3 girls (the most recent study shows 38%) has been sexually abused in some way -- they just don't talk about it because there's a lot of shame attached.

I know you didn't mean it negatively, and I know that word doesn't hold the same impact for everyone that it does for me. It's just somewhat triggering to read, so I was hoping that (selfish as it may be of me to hope) you might avoid using the word casually in your journal in the future."

And I want to thank the few of you that have been so thoughtful and compassionate when I expressed these feelings to you, and have taken them to heart. Really, it meant a lot to me. It still means a lot.

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since I wrote this a few years ago, my susceptibility to being triggered has changed. I no longer feel the same horrible flashbacks -- but I do still find the casual, 'ironic' use of the word upsetting and offensive. Rape is the worst thing that a person can experience, and minor upsets like buying something that is overpriced or losing a game are absolutely nothing like it. If someone was describing an actual violation, an actual stripping of one's basic rights, then it would be an apt descriptive term, and while it would still bother me, I would see nothing wrong with it.

I feel that casual use of the word rape (or molest, used in a sexual connotation such as 'so-n-so is molestable') makes it more acceptable to joke about the actual act, which in turn makes the actual act seem less horrific and annihilating, more acceptable. I understand that not all people would agree with that, but it is something I feel very strongly about. I believe words have power, and how we use them affects the world around us. I believe our culture is growing more and more tacitly approving of sexual violation, and it bothers me extremely whenever I see it.

This is a set boundary for me, so I will not keep someone on my friends list after knowing that ze may use sexually violent language in a casual manner. To people I don't care about, I simply unfriend with no explanation when I see this, because it's never a nice conversation. If I pointed you to this post in response to you doing so, it means I care about you and want to give you the opportunity to reconsider your use of the word. I want to allow you to choose between losing the use of word in that way or losing me.
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I am so sorry that I triggered you like that. I honestly wondered about the wording I used, I'm sensitive about rape and abuse myself, (though obviously not so sensitive that I would not use the word in the context that I did) and i wasn't trying to undermine real rape or offend anyone in that sentence. i really appreciate you posting this and not just biting back on your pain even though you felt awkward about it..
I am so sorry :(
You are so forgiven. I just didn't have the guts to approach you and possibly get shot down (like with that other girl) -- I am so grateful for you being understanding and sensitive. Thank you sweetie.
Okay, someone needs to monitor that community. I just posted links where I knew stuff is usually funny. I don't know if my post is the one you're talking about or not.
Totally not blaming you, but you know that already. ;-) No worries.
Hey, I know you don't know me, I think I left one comment about your fish once, but that was ages ago. I just wanted to say I can completely relate with how you reacted and how you feel. And the post you made the other day about trust, especially with males as well. I wasn't sure what to say really, but I decided to comment on this one. I really hope you don't mind. And I completely agree it's the worst thing someone can do. I hope you're okay. <3
Oh, I certainly don't mind. Thanks for your comment; it's good to know that I'm not alone on this. ;-)
I have a major problem with this too, and often times other people just don't get it. I absolutely hate it when people use the word "rape" as a metaphor for something else.

I know. I think most of them just don't understand the devastation in that little word... and then some of them just don't care.
*hugs* I agree in that there are some words that are used far too lightly and can end up hurting someone else.
*hugs back* Thank you for the support, it really matters to me. *hugs again*
So. . .many. . .parentheses. . .
For as long as I've been following your journal, I don't think I've ever seen you come right out and say you'd been raped until now. I had gathered it from your comments, however, and I was pretty sure I was right. (That is why I put the warning up before that one story [that I don't even know if you read or not, but I probably wouldn't recommend it, now that I know for sure.]) Now I know.

I do not think of you as a lesser woman for having been raped. Quite the contrary, I think of you as a fuller being for having come to terms (or at least, having taken steps toward doing so) with the crime. (I had put 'act' there, but, as you said, that seemed to trivialize it.) You are a strong woman who knows what her weaknesses are and knows where to turn for support for them. I commend you for all that you do.

Know too, that you are probably one of the caringest (I invented that word just for you) people I know, and it shows with each post you . . . post. Your husband Ben is a lucky man to have someone like you in his life.

On a side note, have you ever watched Law & Order: Special Victims Unit? (Probably not, if your friends page 'triggers' you) One of the main characters, Olivia Benson, is a child of rape, and an avid protector of young women that have (even fictitiously) had similar experiences to yours. She makes a point of telling each victim (because that is what they are. Victims of someone else's crime.) that they are not to blame for what happened. As much as defense attorneys try to make it out like it is their fault, it isn't. (I'm sure there was a point to that tangent somewhere. . .) I'm sure in your classes they tell you the same thing, and I can speak for myself, and probably the vast majority, when I say no one here thinks it is your fault.

(Maybe it's my over-analytical mind, but now I wonder if I've instilled doubt. . .I hate the way I think. . .)

All I'm saying is that you are loved and wanted and your need not hide your views under a bushel when it comes to something as serious as this being taken so lightly. Post your comment to their 'joke' and see what kind of person they are with their response. As a dead tree cannot bear good fruit, neither can a wise man say foolish things. (It's probably not Biblical, but it sounds like something Jesus would say. . .or Confucius. . .)
Re: So. . .many. . .parentheses. . .
Yep, I saw that warning, so I didn't read it -- and I really appreciate you putting the warning there! Thank you.

Well, they were pretty mild triggers, but during the early stages of my healing they wouldn't have been mild! They'd have crushed me. I'm glad I can look at that bit of progress, it helps me to keep going.

Don't worry, you didn't instill any doubt. ;-)

On that last bit, if a person seems to be fairly open, I will make the effort to explain the seriousness of rape, but if not, I refuse to 'throw my pearls before swine.' Maybe later when I am strong enough to actually argue over it -- who knows. For now, I pick my audience carefully (and sometimes make mistakes still, as with that one girl that made me nervous about posting this).
I've been monitoring my use for your sake, because you make a good point. My inner writer just has this tendancy to find expressive synonyms, though I've been trying very hard to curb it when it borders on offensive. (Well, not entirely true, I'm sure some people would find my rampant cursing incredibly offensive, but you get what I mean....)
Thank you. See, that is what makes you an exceptional person -- you're very outspoken, but not to the point of hurting others. (many people can't find that balance)
in reading old posts in my journal, VERY old posts (i've been on lj for 4 1/2 years now), i constantly came across myself using it casually, as in towards the cost of gas, or towards my paycheck, or whatever.

i was going to say that i was ashamed of myself, but i guess it was back when i didn't personally know any better.
yeah... it's just a word until you or someone you care about experiences it (or explains their experience to you).
I think you are a very brave person for voicing your opinions so openly and strongly. I have trouble expressing myself and feeling like i'm being coherent when a topic such as this is raised, but I take heart in reading your words, even if you feel as if you're chickening out.
Thank you. I felt like I was chickening out because this is a round-about way of confronting the person, but it worked out and I probably won't be so worried next time. ;-)
I had no idea that one in three girls had been sexually abused. That's appauling.
I think the whole idea of a man using his strength and power to hurt, scare and abuse a female 'just because they can' or 'because they have the urge' is completly sick.

Recently three guys came up to me at the bus stop and started talking to me (read back a few entries in my journal) and trying to get me to go with them and things, luckily my bus came. Anyway, four days later, news of 5 girls getting abducted and raped in the same area by a rape gang of three men came out. Then they released a photo-fit which looked exactly like the people I'd spoken to. It sent shivers down my spine. I felt so lucky it wasn't me that had been a victim. I can't begin to imagine what being a victim would be like. But I admire your strength to openly talk about it and to express your feelings and anger on the matter rather than just bottle it down and end up destroying yourself inside.

Anyone who jokes about something so life-shattering seriously must have no heart.
I am so glad it wasn't you. It's horrifying, the amount of evil in this world...

By the way, browsing your journal, I noticed that you are a gorgeous curvygirl and yet you have a hard time accepting your body -- you should definitely join [livejournal.com profile] curvygirls, we're a fantastic group of girls. Both myself and many of the other members have really made progress toward loving ourselves with the support of each other. ;-)
Good for you! I'm glad you joined, I really hope you find it encouraging. *hugs*
i hope you got a rational response from your words. it makes me livid when people use that word lightly too, but i openly get hopping mad & then people think i'm crazy. they usually learn though... sorry you have to deal with that kind of crap... and sorry for what you've been through.
I can just see you getting hopping mad -- I love that passion you have. ;-)

Thanks for the support. *hugs*
bel, you're so diplomatic. you have such a strong control over your words, but use them gently. you write like a willow.
what a pretty compliment! Thank you. ;-)
I totally understand this and I'm glad you made this post. I feel silly sometimes that something inside me reacts strangely and awkwardly when people use such humor or conversational dynamics--I'm certainly not a prude, nor am I easily offended (actually, very little offends me), and yet this is something that really gets to me. But it makes me feel silly that everybody else can find it amusing while it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable and annoyed.
yeah, I'm not that easy to offend either. But there's a difference between being unconventional and being uncaring... and I think a lot of people just don't understand the power their words have, especially that one.

AND, it's not only possible but likely that many others are uncomfortable and annoyed but hide it.
I'm so sorry you had to read that. The very idea of rape is unimaginably horrific to me. How can people joke about it? If I was ever raped, God forbid, I think I might kill myself. And I am mortified by the news of those rapes going on in New Orleans now. It's like we're living in a war torn third world country.
a lot of victims do kill themselves... Sad but true. I don't want to think about what kind of effect the evil happening in New Orleans is going to have, long term. :-(
I agree with you...except perhaps if its used in books. Not as a joke but as a serious lifechanging event. I think its good to make people aware that this does happen and how horrible it is.

What is your opinion of that use?

For example in the book "We Were the Mulivanies" the daughter is raped early in the story and the rest of the book shows how each of her siblings and her parents react to it and how she herself deals with it. Its a sad stressfilled story, but its also very good at teaching the reader that rape is not something you should "hide" like it was a disease and that its NOT you or your families fault.

I think this use is perfectly acceptable because it is serious and it promotes awareness.
In books, it depends on how they handle it. If they go into a long description of the actual rape, to me that's horrible, because it's presenting rape as a form of entertainment. (like in porn -- rape is a big part of porn) But if they sketch it briefly (or just imply and then confirm) and then focus on the effects, that's completely different, and even though that would probably be a bit difficult for me to read (at this stage of healing, anyway), I definitely approve of it. Because like you said, that is serious and promotes awareness.
I completely see your point. It IS how they handle it. I really dont want to personaly read a "long discription". No, Ive not been raped, but it HORRIFIES me! Rape in porn bothers me...

However, when its sketched breifely, or like in the case of the book I mentioned it happens in the background and you end up finding out what happened through everyones reactions not through the event itself, then its acceptable.
I agree 100%. Rape is just the most dehumanizing thing you can to do someody - it's soul destroying. I also find the word "rape" such an emotin charged and ugly word. I canot stand any insults or prejudism regarding rape at all.
I'm glad to know that you agree; it frees me to be a little more confident in my own stance.
Whoever that friend was should be a bit more considerate or should post a cut or warning!
I agree! Thanks for the support!
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since I wrote this a few years ago, my susceptibility to being triggered has changed. I no longer feel the same horrible flashbacks -- but I do still find the casual, 'ironic' use of the word upsetting and offensive. Rape is the worst thing that a person can experience, and choosing of one's own free will to spend too much money has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you were describing an actual violation, an actual stripping of one's basic rights, then it would be an apt descriptive term, and while it would still bother me, I would see nothing wrong with it.

I feel that casual use of the word rape (or molest, used in a sexual connotation such as 'so-n-so is molestable') makes it more acceptable to joke about the actual act, which in turn makes the actual act seem less horrific and annihilating, more acceptable. I understand that not all people would agree with that, but it is something I feel very strongly about. I believe words have power, and how we use them affects the world around us. I believe our culture is growing more and more tacitly approving of sexual violation, and it bothers me extremely whenever I see it.

Unfortunately this is something that is a set boundary for me, so I feel I can't keep you on my friends list after knowing that you may use sexually violent language in a casual manner. My flist is a safe space for me, and if I were to keep you I would worry whenever I saw a post from you, concerned that you might do it again and I would feel even more alienated from you.

I don't know how to say all this in a way that doesn't sound demanding or judgmental. Perhaps it simply is demanding and judgmental. But it is a belief of mine. To people I don't care about, I simply unfriend with no explanation when I see this, because it's never a nice conversation. But I do care about you so I wanted to have the conversation. It's definitely not my intention to try and change you, but just to let you know how I feel so that if you didn't care much about the use of the word rape, then it would be eliminated, and if you did, then you could understand why I feel the way I do.

I really really hope that I haven't caused you to think badly of me.

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